@Aaron πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ the irony burns

@jerry @Aaron what we really need is a way to securely send e-mail.

People will continue to send e-mail. There is no way this goes away antime soon. People will send sensitive stuff via e-mail.

We can spend time discussing just how exactly people should not use e-mail, or we can build a system that works.

I like the ideas behind PEP and AutoCrypt. I'd like to see them implemented in more clients.

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@jerry @Aaron@boringpeople.org @rysiek People have sent sensitive stuff in the mail for ages. The security problems with that - especially between nation states and individuals - have mostly been mitigated by legal frameworks (privacy of correspondence), and not with technology. In that regard, the mindset of the Declaration of the Independence of the Cyberspace has probably been quite harmful - solving similar problems using tech turns out way more expensive.

@galaxis @jerry @Aaron been doing privacy activism in an EU country for about a decade and I can tell you one thing: the fact that breaking certain encryption is impossible makes it helluva lot easier to argue in defense of legal protections of privacy of correspondence.

Plus, legal protections in places like Belarus are not a thing.

We need both. Legal and tech.

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